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6 years 10 months ago #304 by mrtyros
Laserworld DMX adapter setup was created by mrtyros
My setup:
- Laserworld CS1000RGB MKII
- Shownet Interface
- Laserworld DMX adapter

What I want to do is this:
Display ILDA files stored on SD card through DMX commands (as described in the manual)

What I did:
- Created ILDA files, named them conform the rules (000.ild / 001.ild etc.) and stored them on the supplied SD card.
- Set the CS1000 in ILDA mode (all dip switches to OFF)
- Set the Shownet interface to DMX and set an appropriate DMX address (made sure there are no conflicting address with other fixtures)
- Connected the Laserworld DMX adapter to between Shownet out, the other end to the short black ILDA cable and the end of that cable to the CS-1000 ILDA in.

What happens is:
- Every DMX device after the Shownet does not respond anymore
- Nothing happens when trying to control the Shownet over DMX i.e. the CS-1000 does not do anything.

What am I doing wrong ?

When I set the CS-1000 to DMX mode I can control it as expected, so the device works as expected.

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6 years 10 months ago #305 by Tschosef
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Hello.....

i try to help...
my first Idea is: you must know... the DMX Adapter, you connected to the ShowNet Interface has NO DMX THROUGH !!!!!... i think this is the reason, your other DMX devices do nothing after you connect the adapter in the DMX Line.

So, if it is not possible to connect the device at the end of your DMX Line, you have to build a DMX-T-Cable (one in, and 2 out)

To understand the other problem (ShowNet does not work in dmx mode) i have 2 Questions:

a) What is your DMX Controller (Software? Hardware?), did you create your own DMX Device Definition File for this Controller or do you use a ready one?

b) What DMX Adress did you select for the ShowNet interface?

A last Idea / tipp:
you should be able to use the programm Laserworld_ShowNet_Admin_Tool to check the DMX Input to your ShowNet INterface. You will find this programm in your programmfolder of Laserworld Showeditor 2015. The Interface must be connected to your computer in LAN Mode (remember the firewall of your computer). In tab "ManualControll" you should be able to see the chaning of DMX In Value, wenn you change them by your controller.


hope i will be able to help.

best regards
Erich

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6 years 10 months ago #306 by mrtyros
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Hi Erich,

Thank you for your reply !
I will build or buy the T-cable, so that should deal with the problem of the interrupted DMX chain.
The DMX controller software I use is Luminair 3 (iPad) which works fine with every other fixture (as well as the CS-1000RGB MKii when I set it to DMX mode; of course when testing the Shownet I had set it back to ILDA mode). I have created my own profile for the Shownet, based upon the assumption that I had to use the settings as described in the Shownet manual - DIP switch setting for DMX mode: No. 10 on for DMX mode and the other 9 to define the DMX address - in my case 200 (which has enough room for the 11 DMX channels as described in the manual and no conflicts with other fixtures) The definition of the DMX profile has been made according to the manual:
1=Intensity
2=Frame pattern
3=Size x-axis
4=Size y-axis
5=Position x-axis
6=Position y-axis
7=Rotation
8=Blanking
9=Blankshift
10=Pattern colors
11=Scan speed

When I would use the Shownet Admin tool what would be the DIP switch mode I put the Shownet in ? one of the 3 Network modes ? I can imagine that the software does not see the Shownet when it is in DMX mode.

Thanks in advance for your reply !

Best regards,

Marc

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6 years 10 months ago #307 by Tschosef
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Hello Marc

if you want to use the ShowNet Admin tool, you have to swich the DIP Swich to your standard LAN Mode (Auto IP, Fixed IP.... what ever)....
Then, the Tool should be able to see your ShowNet interface. In this case, you should be able to see the incomming DMX Values.... so if your Luminair3 is sending DMX To the DMX Input of ShowNet, you should see this on your computer in the Admintoo.
Offcourse in this mode, no DMX - ILDA-SDcard Functionality is possible! But you will see, if the DMX Setup is ok..... If this is okay.... change back the DIP Swich to DMX Mode (disconnect the LAN cable)... and try again if it works....

greez
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6 years 10 months ago #308 by mrtyros
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Hi Erich,

I did not have time yet to test it with the Admin tool but a question that comes up is this one: if the DMX adapter has no DMX through, why is there a DMX in and a DMX out ? So I make a Y adapter. (I cannot make the Shownet last in chain) 1x IN / 2 x OUT. First out goes to Shownet IN / Second out goes first fixture in of the rest of chain. But what to do with the DMX out of the DMX adapter ? Is it unused ? In that case - does it need a terminator ? I am sorry to ask so many questions but the DMX adapter did not come with any documentation. (I bought the adapter straight from Laserworld).
Thanks again for your help.
Cheers,
Marc

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6 years 10 months ago #309 by Tschosef
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Hello Marc

the DMX Out of the Adapter is for usage with Showeditor Software, or if you want to use the ShowNet Interface as a ArtNet Node with other DMX Software....

There are manny different functions possible.... Examples:
You could use the DMX IN to controll the SD Ilda File Player (stand allone)
You could also use the DMX in to controll the Live Functionality of Laserworld Showedditor
You could use the DMX Out to control DMX Equipment, or other DMX Software by Timelineeditor of Laserworld Showeditor
You could use the DMX In / Out with DMX Software supporting ArtNet (then no Ilda Laserfunctionality)

Normaly, you need a terminator at the last DMX Device in the DMX Chain. If the ShowNet interface is your last device, this will be a good idea. Mostly if you use short DMX Chains, no terminator is necessary.

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6 years 10 months ago #310 by mrtyros
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Hi Erich,

I use the Showeditor software to create ILDA figures for storage on the SD card. All I need to do is use DMX to trigger ILDA files on SD card and play around with intensity, size, position and rotation of the patterns on the card, so then I assume I can leave the DMX out of the adapter unused.
In any case many thanks for your help !
I'll try to work it out and will let you know if it did !
Have a nice day !

Marc

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6 years 10 months ago #311 by mrtyros
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Hi Erich,

Today I had a chance to test if our Shownet was responding to DMX commands. In the Admin tool I saw DMX values changing upon DMX commands sent from my software.
Conclusion: DMX adapter is OK.
But when connected back to the laser... no luck.
So, I tested the short ILDA cable and connected the Shownet to Showeditor. This time no problem. Every figure projected as it should. Conclusion: no cable issue.
Then I put the Shownet in SD card mode (Dip switch 6 and 8 to on) to see if the files on the card are displayed as the should. Result: nothing happens.
My guess: there is probably something wrong with the SD reader of the unit.
What to do next ? Send the unit in for repair ? We bought it from Bax-shop in the Netherlands. Send it back to them ? The unit was bought in february of this year. Or should I return the unit directly to Laserworld ?
Please let me know.
Thanks very much in advance.

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6 years 10 months ago #312 by Tschosef
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Hello

hmm..... i am not the specialist with SD-Card reader Hardware....
If you think, there is a Error... i recommend Laserworld Customer Returns Service
www.laserworld.com/en/support/customer-returns-service.html

a other Idea....
If you want to, you could send me your SD-Card Contend and i will check it with my ShowNet SD-Card Player

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6 years 10 months ago #313 by mrtyros
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Hi Erich,

Perhaps it is a good idea of testing my ILDA files on your Shownet to make sure I am doing nothing wrong. Only problem is that the file size is too large to send via the forum (altough there are only 12 ILDA files I have put in a ZIP file). So how do I send them over to you ?
Cheers - Marc

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6 years 10 months ago #314 by Tschosef
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i sent a mail to you...

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4 years 8 months ago - 4 years 6 months ago #635 by BertRands
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Hi..If the laser has ILDA input you can use your audio/DC signals. No need for other interfaces or software. Though the input voltage range has to match the output's more or less.

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4 years 8 months ago - 4 years 8 months ago #636 by Tschosef
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@ BertRands . . .

hmm... this is more a Laserfreak(y) solution :-)
as you can see in the Forum (laserfreak)... there was really a Audio DAC existing (with Voltage Match Electronic) . . . Shure, this device also usable just by playing Audio without special LaserShowSoftware ;-)

But if you play only Stereo L-R Audio file, the Lasermodules get no modulation signal ;-)
so you need at least a 5 Signal Audio File L-R Front, L-R Rear, Sub...

best regards....
Erich

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